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December 6, 2011

Yes, They’re Bringing Along the Tugboat On the Visit to Syria That Isn’t Happening

Filed under: Military,Russia — The Professor @ 10:13 am

In my post on the purported voyage of the Russian “aircraft carrier” to Syria, based on past experience, I recommended that the flotilla include a salvage tug.  And so it shall!  Wise move.

And speaking of that visit to Syria.  First, it was on.  Then it was denied.  Now it’s apparently on again.  So which is it?  Do you need any further examples of why any “information” coming out of the Russian Ministry of Defense should be almost completely discounted?

Have a good trip, Theodore.

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  1. Hopefully this time the Russians will refrain from sinking British trawlers in the belief that they are Japanese spy vessels – in the North Sea!!

    Comment by Tim Newman — December 6, 2011 @ 7:51 pm

  2. Actually, I need to correct that: they didn’t think them spy vessels, they thought them an invasion force!

    Comment by Tim Newman — December 6, 2011 @ 7:52 pm

  3. Of course they were invading – invading The sacred Soviet – er – now holy third Rome’s sacred shoals of Herring: how else can Putin fulfill his 5 second economic plan by flexing his pecs and thus causing the miracle of loaves and fishes to be reenacted? What are you Newman, some damned secular capitalist russophobic anti Slav atheistic heresiarch? Get with the program!

    By the way, given Putin’s Christ like powers, Thomas the tank engine should be able3 to haul the Admiral Whosis over the water just fine.

    Comment by Sotos — December 6, 2011 @ 8:08 pm

  4. @Tim–but the Russians sort of paid the price at Tsushima a few months later, eh? The most crushing defeat in naval history.

    The ProfessorComment by The Professor — December 6, 2011 @ 8:43 pm

  5. Well hand-rearing the Jap Navy paid off in spades in 1942.

    Comment by So? — December 6, 2011 @ 11:41 pm

  6. Two points re: the Digger Banks incident:

    The British were allies of Japan.

    Prior to 7 December 1941, a “Pearl Harbor” was called a “Copenhagen”

    Comment by paulip — December 7, 2011 @ 3:07 am

  7. Don’t you mean 1941 So? I see your grasp of history is as shaky as ever……

    Comment by Andrew — December 7, 2011 @ 1:26 pm

  8. The British were allies of Japan.

    Then why not assume the ships were British? Which they, erm, were.

    Comment by Tim Newman — December 8, 2011 @ 2:31 pm

  9. Why exclude the possibility that the British had let their ally base forces in GB?

    Comment by paulip — December 8, 2011 @ 4:47 pm

  10. Uhm, I think the journey of a Japanese fleet–or even a single Japanese ship–would have attracted notice, given the number of coaling stops between Japan and the UK. Indeed, coal was Rozhdestvenski’s constant worry. He often had to procure it from passing merchant ships, and his vessels were carrying coal on deck when they met the Japanese. The Japanese would have faced similar difficulties, though perhaps not as acute: The most important assistance that the British gave to the Japanese was to refuse to sell coal to the Russian fleet.

    Recall that one major justification/rationale for overseas colonies was to obtain coaling stations for fleets.

    So there is no way whatsoever that the Russians need have feared that a Japanese fleet somehow made its way to the UK without being discovered, and lay in wait to ambush the Russians.

    Meaning: exclude absolutely the possibility.

    The ProfessorComment by The Professor — December 8, 2011 @ 5:09 pm

  11. Why exclude the possibility that the British had let their ally base forces in GB?

    Do you really think the Russians sank the British trawlers having failed to “exclude a possibility”?!!

    Comment by Tim Newman — December 8, 2011 @ 11:36 pm

  12. A friend who works in the academic/defense area told me why American tanks toasted Soviet tanks in teh 1st Iraq war: the American tanks can shoot a shell a little futher…..
    This same friend told me there is only one successful hand held surface to air missile: the one with remote guidance, so you can duck back in your foxhole after firing; all the others requie that you stand there and guide the missile into the target by eye

    (in the era of the iron curtain and Soviet Union)
    A group of Russian tourists are visiting czechoslavakia, and they come upon an enormous Hapsburg era palace; on the fron is a plaque, Czech Naval Ministry.
    One the tourists asks the guide, whats up with this, you are a completly landlocked country, a thousand miles from the ocean !!!
    The guide smiles and says, you have a ministry of culture in Moscow, don’tyou ?

    Comment by ezra abrams — December 12, 2011 @ 8:39 pm

  13. @Ezra–and they were Abrams tanks 🙂

    The ProfessorComment by The Professor — December 12, 2011 @ 10:14 pm

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