Streetwise Professor

October 31, 2024

Trash Talk

Filed under: Politics — cpirrong @ 1:42 pm

Yesterday Joe Biden called Trump supporters garbage.

This, mind you, happened about the same time that Harris was giving her “closer” “Trump=Hitler” speech on the Ellipse.

In one of the great “Oh Shit!” moments of all time, Dementia Joe’s outburst triggered an epic cycle of spin. The gaslights were turned all the way up. You dummies–there was an apostrophe in “supporters”. He was referring to one guy, the comedian who made the stupid Puerto Rico joke at Trump’s MSG rally! Not eighty million people! Come on!

Of course that makes no sense. If he was referring to one guy, he would have said “the only garbage out there I see is his supporter.” The possessive would have referred to the supporter’s joke, which makes no sense in this context.

But who are you gonna believe? Them or your garbage eyes and ears?

We know that this is the opinion that Biden, Harris, and the Democrats actually hold of about half the electorate. Biden basically said as much in his speech (with production assistance from the ghost of Leni Riefenstahl ) in front of Independence Hall a couple of years ago. It’s an echo of Hillary’s “basket of deplorables” and Obama’s “bitter clingers.” And more media and celebrity examples than you can shake a stick at.

It’s what they believe. Truly believe.

Joe’s timing was exquisite. The Democrats were trying desperately to leverage an insult comedian’s remark into a campaign issue. Then Joe blew that up completely. There’s a big difference between a professional clown making a remark about a place and a president making a similar remark about half of the people in his country.

Trump of course jumped on it, in his showman’s fashion, jumping into a garbage truck before a campaign event, donning a garbage man’s reflective vest, and then giving a jokey speech in it. It was a move to rival his McDonald’s gambit. The man is a living, breathing meme and as a result his showmanship goes viral on a scale no other politician can match.

Biden’s remark is just a particularly crass and ill-timed part of a broader Democratic campaign theme to demonize Trump as Hitler, and therefore to paint anyone who supports him as a Nazi, or at least a Nazi adjacent enabler. It’s not working, and even many Democrats now realize it’s not working and are pleading Harris to stop.

But why would they think it would work? There is in fact some logic to it, but that logic has a fatal weakness that seems to be manifesting itself now in a major way.

The reason for this trash talk is to stigmatize anyone who expresses support for Trump: if you do, you’re a Nazi, and everyone will despise you. No, this won’t deter his hardcore supporters. But it can potentially appeal to those who are particularly afraid of ostracism. This would include those who may have sympathies with Trump on some issues (and by my reading, particularly on immigration) but who live and/or work among vocal–and often vicious–leftists. It also includes the naturally wishy-washy, who instinctively follow the crowd. Such folk hide their preferences under a bushel basket, which leads to an understatement of public support for Trump. And that can lead those who are naturally followers to go with the apparent in-crowd and vote for Harris.

That is, the rhetoric is intended to create preference falsification. Preference falsification allows authoritarian regimes to retain popular support even if many individuals’ true preferences are opposed. Every one goes along, not because they truly believe, but because they think everyone else is going along too.

But the weakness in this strategy is that even if a modest number of people stop falsifying their preferences, it can trigger a cascade of such repudiations. Roughly speaking, preference falsification has two equilibria: most people falsify, or most people don’t. A jump from one equilibrium to another is the death knell of regimes that rely on preference falsification to maintain their facade of authority–and who rely the threat of social stigma to enforce it.

I think we are experiencing such a cascade. Why? I think that the assassination attempt was the first crack in the falsificaiton wall. It got a lot of people to acknowledge their admiration for how he handled it, and to recognize that the vicious rhetoric against him was extremely dangerous: it created an atmosphere in which unstable personalities were encouraged to take acts that could spark a political and social calamity.

Moreover, the rhetoric had been used for so long that its narcotic effect had worn off. And perhaps most importantly, it clashed with what people saw in his self-created memes, like the McDonald’s episode, this Al Smith Dinner speech, and his riffs at rallies. These things humanized him and clashed with the Hitler image.

Hitler wasn’t funny. Trump can be very funny. Common Americans can relate to Trump in ways that it would be impossible for a Hitler to do. There was a disconnect between what many people saw in Trump and their image of Hitler.

Biden’s garbage remark will only reinforce the cascade. Even those who have continued to conceal their true beliefs until now will realize that the Democrats really despise them, and definitely do not have their interests at heart. Pride, self-respect, and self-interest will combine to overwhelm the fear among many of social stigma. And the more that happens, the less powerful the effect of social stigma, which only accelerates the process.

There’s the old Michael Kinsley quip that a gaffe is when a politician tells the truth. That’s what Biden did. And by talking trash and thereby telling the truth he could well have broken the spell of preference falsification that has been the foundation of a Harris campaign that can offer nothing positive either in program or personality.

12 Comments »

  1. As long as the Dems get to fake enough votes none of this will matter.

    Comment by dearieme — November 1, 2024 @ 6:33 am

  2. Suppose Trump wins, and the ballots are counted correctly.
    He may not have more votes of the actual voters, but a plurality in the electoral college.
    This will send the dimocrats into meltdown. Antifa, BLM and all the crazies will be called out to make January 6th look like a tea party.
    I hope you’re right, prof, about preference falsification. Without a clear cut victory the USA is in a dangerous place.

    Comment by philip — November 1, 2024 @ 5:41 pm

  3. Well done again prof! I differ only on one item: the comment was not actually a gaffe on Biden‘s part. He’s doing his damndest to throw her under the bus, just like she did to him. He may be dumb, but it’s not his first rodeo. He knows exactly what he’s doing.

    Comment by MattE — November 1, 2024 @ 10:48 pm

  4. “We know that this is the opinion that Biden, Harris, and the Democrats actually hold of about half the electorate.”

    I disagree, Prof. This is the opinion that the Democrat elites hold of the entire electorate. It’s simply that the Dems divide the the population into garbage who will believe anything ‘we’ say and garbage who resist ‘our’ BS.

    Non-garbage are the elites, their friends and the random billionaires who give them money.

    Clear enough typology?

    Comment by Simple Simon — November 3, 2024 @ 12:55 pm

  5. I’m with Dearie: Lacking even the minimum safeguards needed to ensure the integrity of the vote, the whole exercise is Kayfabe (as it was in 2020).

    And I’m also with Phil: even if Trump manages to collect so many votes that the Dems’ rigging is defeated (as happened in 2016, LOL), the Dems and their tame Republican pets will never, ever accept the result, and the Dems will unleash their ‘social movements’ to wreak havoc while the RINOs play interference for them (again, as happened in 2017-2020).

    It’s going to be ‘interesting’.

    Comment by Ex-Global Super-Regulator on Lunch Break — November 3, 2024 @ 8:17 pm

  6. Craig – it would be good to get your perspective on the CME being allowed to become a futures broker.

    Comment by lundenwic — November 6, 2024 @ 5:33 am

  7. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

    Now don’t let anyone shoot him

    Comment by dearieme — November 6, 2024 @ 7:57 am

  8. Journalists are bursting into tears on live TV.
    I’m lovin’ it.
    As Conan the Barbarian said, the greatest joy in life is to crush your enemies and hear the lamentations of their women…

    Comment by philip — November 6, 2024 @ 12:01 pm

  9. I saw someone say “The garbage can. And just did.”

    Comment by dearieme — November 7, 2024 @ 4:12 am

  10. If only the Democrats had insulted more voters and peddled more identity politics, they’d certainly have won. It’s a surefire recipe for success.

    The Daily Wire coverage on YT was hilarious. Five blokes sitting around drinking huge shorts, smoking huge stogies and laughing fit to piss.

    Comment by Green as Grass — November 7, 2024 @ 9:38 am

  11. @lunenwic–On it’s way. Probably tomorrow.

    I will note that the original idea was the CME’s response to FTX. I am somewhat surprised that the CME persisted even after the demise of FTX.

    Comment by cpirrong — November 7, 2024 @ 11:56 am

  12. @MattE. The thought did cross my mind–almost immediately after Biden dropped out I pointed out several other things that he was doing that were best explained as sabotage/revenge. He delivered it with such conviction though that I concluded he really believes it. Perhaps the way to reconcile all this is that he believes it, but only voiced it in order to torpedo Kamala.

    Comment by cpirrong — November 7, 2024 @ 11:58 am

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