Streetwise Professor

May 30, 2013

Who You Gonna Believe, Putin & Lavrov or Your Lyin’ Eyes?

Filed under: Military,Politics,Russia — The Professor @ 8:27 pm

Those who have been paying attention to Russia’s line on its supplying weapons to Syria for the past two-plus years might recall an early defense, offered by both Putin and Lavrov: “Russia is not supplying any weapons that could be used in a civil conflict.”

The S-300 SAM system has dominated the news lately, but the Washington Post has just published the weapons shopping list that Assad provided to Russia.  It includes AKs, various machine guns, grenade launchers, sniper rifles, grenades, small arms ammunition, mortar rounds, and night vision goggles.

All of which is eminently suited for use in a civil conflict.

The Russian story was self-evidently farcical when Putin and Lavrov told it with straight faces.  Now the evidence of the farce is there for all to see.

Not that it will make any difference.  But this makes it obvious that nothing that the Russians say about their role in Syria has any relationship to reality.

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  1. Awww… Poor Cwagie so sad that gibbering Wahabi lunatics will be prevented taking over Syria.

    Comment by Wanderer — May 31, 2013 @ 5:47 am

  2. If gibbering Wahabi lunatics will be prevented from taking over Syria, it will be done by Nazi-saluting Shiite lunatics from Lebanon.

    Comment by aaa — May 31, 2013 @ 7:15 am

  3. President Vladimir Putin and his advisers feel they can safely turn up the heat in the belief that President Barack Obama will have no choice in the final reckoning but to accept the Russian-Iranian proposals for ending the Syrian war, starting with leaving Assad in power. Otherwise, Moscow is indicating that the war will escalate, fueled by the swelling input of Russian arms, and the United States will sink further in Middle East estimation.‘s-smoke-screen-obscures-Assad’s-next-Syrian-war-moves

    Comment by Anders — May 31, 2013 @ 2:28 pm

  4. @wanderer. Act your age. Or maybe you are.

    There were never any good choices in Syria, only bad and worse. But the point is that Russian obduracy at the beginning of the struggle (which is when Putin & Lavrov uttered the “no weapons used in civil conflict” bullshit) prolonged the war, thereby making the downside even worse. That is exactly what gave the Wahhabis the time to get a foothold, and more.

    The Russians could have played a constructive role by helping usher out Assad. What would have replaced him wouldn’t have been great, but it would have been an improvement. But they didn’t. Which is why Syria is where it is, with a choice between a thuggish dictator and Wahhabi freaks.

    For Putin and his buttboys (sorry, but there it is) to invoke the Wahhabi threat is beyond chutzpah. By backing Assad and guaranteeing a stalemate, Putin created the Wahhabi specter.

    The ProfessorComment by The Professor — May 31, 2013 @ 2:46 pm

  5. Oh, so Putin snaps his fingers and Assad drops without a fight. What bullsh*t. Any fighting at all brings the Wahabi loons to the fore because of the Saudi involvement, just like with Libya, which the Russians didn’t oppose, by the way.

    And you know, somehow the Wahabi loons made it to Iraq, and sustained themselves for years in the face of US troops, again because of the Saudis and not because of Putin.

    Again, your blind Putin-hatred renders your ‘analysis’ worse than useless.

    Comment by Wanderer — May 31, 2013 @ 11:13 pm

  6. Wanderer, we know you are a bit retarded, but where do you think the “wahabi loons” in Iraq got the latest Russian RPG’s from?
    Not from the Saudis that’s for sure.
    From Russia.

    And if Assad had his weapons supply cut off, he’d be out of there right quick.

    Comment by Andrew — June 1, 2013 @ 4:53 am

  7. Looted from captured Syrian arsenals.

    And please. Qadaffi dragged it out for months without Russian arms. Again, the Russians didnt impede Q’s fall, yet the GWL are still in Libya. SWP is bullshitting when he blames GWL prominence in Syria on Putin.

    Comment by Wanderer — June 1, 2013 @ 7:13 am

  8. Wanderer, the “Wahabi loons” in Iraq were using the latest RPG’s long before the Syrian civil war, nearly 10 years before actually.
    The Russians were happy to supply them.
    You really are a misinformed retard.

    Q dragged it out for months, this is now about 2 years in Syria. Epic fail once again Wan(k)derer

    Of course, amoral Putin lovers like yourself are quite happy for civilians to be on the receiving end of Assad’s sarin gas.

    The French just confirmed the Syrian government has used them

    Comment by Andrew — June 6, 2013 @ 12:19 pm

  9. Prick Andy, the Ieaqi Army is reported to have used the RPG-29 to resist the initial 2003 invasion by Dubya Shrub and Poodle Bliar. No evidence that the Iraqi insurgents got them from Russia.

    But groundless accusation has always been your long suit.

    And Carla daPonte said that the evidence is that the ‘Glorious Gibbering Wahabi Lunatics in Syria’ are the only ones using Sarin.

    Comment by wandererr — June 13, 2013 @ 1:46 pm

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