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November 19, 2013

This Is Chutzpah, Even by Lavrov’s Own Standards

Filed under: Politics,Russia — The Professor @ 8:47 pm

Never criticize Lavrov for lacking in chutzpah:

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accused the European Union on Tuesday of putting “unforgivable pressure” on Ukraine to join a trade pact with the EU.

If Ukraine meets the EU’s conditions, signing the trade pact this month would mark a historic shift away from Russia and towards western Europe.

“We are not putting anyone under pressure … this is a sovereign choice for any state,” Lavrov told a news conference.

“If you compare our, in my opinion, honourable and collegial position with that of some representatives from the European Union, then arguably unforgivable pressure is being applied from that side on the focus (ex-Soviet) states.”

If you’ve been following the news, you know Russia has been putting the python squeeze on Ukraine.  Crackdowns on inspections on the border.  Turning up the heat on gas.  Banning import of chocolate.  The Euros have been limited to tut-tutting about Tymoshenko.  And if anything, they have been trying to entice the Ukrainians, rather than bully them.

The Russians act as if you catch more flies with gall than honey: the Euros the reverse.  But despite all the abundant evidence, Lavrov suggests that the Russians have been the ones offering sweets (even as they cut off Ukranian exports of sugary comestibles.)

You have to give the guy credit.  Nobody does chutzpah like he does.

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  1. On Tuesday, Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov rejected the EU criticism as “unclean,” arguing that Russia fully respects the sovereignty of its neighbors and accusing EU officials of exerting “shameless pressure” on the ex-Soviet nations.

    Lavrov said that the EU rhetoric boils down to offering ex-Soviet nations a choice between a “dark past” with Russia or a “bright future” in association with the EU.

    “They say: you need to make a choice, and you must choose the EU, or else you will get lost,” he said.


    As usual, the Rashan sovok mafia thugs stand logic on its head – twisted, screwed up logic is the norm for Rasha.

    First, Rasha has engaged in quite a few trade wars with Ukraine and with other countries, and even invaded Georgia.

    Shameless pressure on the part of Rasha? Rasha has no shame.

    Second, Rasha cut off the gas to Ukraine – again – in 2009, and people in Europe froze to death.

    Shameless pressure on the part of Rasha? Rasha has no shame.

    Third, a “dark past” with Rasha – the Terror of Stalin, especially in 1937. Siberia. Gulags. Artificial famines, especially the Murder By Famine Holodomor in 1931-32, engineered by Stalin and his henchmen.

    No freedom of travel in the sovok union. No freedom of speech – except for what was or is “approved.”

    You had to live the propaganda about the Great Patriotic War every day, all day, over and over and over and over again, and listen to the glories of Lenin and Stalin and the Red Army over and over and over and over again, all day, every day.

    It was like being stuck in 1945 every day, all day – and it still is.

    Today – no political opposition in Rasha, except what is “approved.”

    It is no wonder that Russians call their “president” Putler.

    Putler is KGB.

    In Rasha, the “president” of Rasha is nominated by the “president” of Rasha, and elected by the “president” of Rasha.

    How the hell does Rasha manufacture psychos like Lavrov, who live in their own little dysfunctional brains?


    Lavrov – yet another delusional Rashan putz.

    Maybe someone can arrange one of those Zookrainian “suicides” for him and yanusvoloch – you know, where a guy “shoots or stabs himself in the back seven times” – and the sovok mafia says “worst case of suicide I ever saw.”

    Comment by elmer — November 19, 2013 @ 10:21 pm

  2. so what do you make of this, SWP?

    Firtash is, of course, the guy who was 50% of RosUkrEnergo, the corrupt middleman in former purchases of gas by Ukraine from Rasha. The other 50% were insiders of —- Gazprom.

    Firtash screwed his 50% “partner” by not paying what he owed them from profits – yet here they are, doing business with the corrupt thug sovok mafia sonofabitch again!!!!!

    RosUkrEnergo was cut out as a middleman by Julia Tymoshenko, who was sent to jail as a result, in a stalinist show trial orchestrated by Firtash’s sovok mafia thug buddies from the Donetsky Bolshevik Regionnaires.

    Ukrainian private firm gets Russian loan for gas purchases 2013-11-20 07:15:31 [RSS] [Feedback] [Print] [Copy URL] [More]

    KIEV, Nov. 19 (Xinhua) — A private Ukrainian company said Tuesday that it has received a loan from a Russian bank to purchase 5 billion cubic meters of natural gas.

    Ostchem holding, owned by Ukrainian tycoon Dmytry Firtash, said it has obtained the loan from Gazprombank, the banking arm of Russia’s gas giant Gazprom, to buy gas to fill Ukraine’s underground storage facilities.

    “We have already pumped gas into underground reservoirs to ensure supplies in winter,” Firtash told reporters.

    Firtash said that gas from Russia will enable Ukraine to provide constant supplies to domestic users and consumers in Europe during the heating season.

    Financial details of the loan were not revealed, but local media estimated the deal at 1.34 billion U.S. dollars.

    Last month, Russia’s Gazprom said it was ready to supply gas to Ostchem at a discount of 30 percent to 36 percent against the price Ukraine pays to ensure uninterrupted supplies to Europe in winter.

    Comment by elmer — November 19, 2013 @ 10:26 pm

  3. @elmer-Welcome back. Re Firtash: I read that yesterday morning, and could not figure out what is really going on. On the one hand, it could be interpreted as a big concession by Gazprom. It is selling gas at a big discount to the extortionate price it charges Ukraine, and this gas will then be sold on by Firtash/Ostchem at a markup that will add to his ill-gotten gains (some of which will flow into politicians’ pockets), but which will still leave Ukraine better off. This will reduce the likelihood of another gas war in January, which I think Putin and Gazprom really would like to avoid. On the other hand, I can see Gazprom double dipping. Selling this gas to Firtash, and then presenting the Ukrainians will a bill for the contracted value at the contracted price under the take-or-pay clause. The 5bcm represents about 1/6 of what Ukraine bought from Russia last year, and about 1/8 of the contracted volume (figures from memory). Ukraine will also supposedly get gas from Europe via Slovakia. This will give Ukraine some leverage, or perhaps more accurately, reduce Gazprom’s leverage. The best part is that much of the gas will no doubt originate in Russia. This would undermine Gazprom’s price discrimination scheme.

    But with this lot of gangsters, who knows? All I know for sure is that the filthy rich will get richer (impossible to get any filthier), and Ukraine will find some way to f*ck this up.

    The ProfessorComment by The Professor — November 20, 2013 @ 9:34 am

  4. Figure out the missing part of this syllogism:

    a. A Diplomat is an honest man in the government sent out to lie for his country.
    B. ??????????????????????????????

    QED Russia had no diplomats.

    Comment by Sotos — November 20, 2013 @ 9:47 am

  5. @elmer. Re the Firtash deal. Towards the bottom of this piece is a suggestion (based by an allegation from the opposition) that Putin bought off Yukashenko with a cut price gas deal that would direct proceeds into Yukashenko’s pocket and campaign warchest. That sounds like the Firtash deal (because Firtash is a Yukashenko ally) and fits in with yesterday’s decision not to proceed with the Association Agreement with the EU.

    The ProfessorComment by The Professor — November 22, 2013 @ 1:29 pm

  6. SWP, I think you may be right.

    The whole negotiauction has been about what someone can put into the pockets of yanustalin and his gang of thugs.

    They came right out and said they wanted to be compensated for “losses”, either due to those “expected” when the EU “floods” the market in Zookraine due to a free trade agreement, or “losses” already incurred due to the trade war conducted by Vlad Dracul Putler and his gang of thugs.

    Inside Zookraine, there was a massive propaganda scare campaign against EU integration – people would lose their “places of work” (робочі місця), beeznisez would close due to EU integration, cats would sleep with dogs.

    Note the connotation of “place of work” – no productivity, no efficiency, just places occupied by people in return for votes for sovok mafia thugs who masquerade as a pretend government.

    It’s all based on a tacit admission that Zookraine goods are inferior, and cannot compete in the EU marketplace – so in return for democratic reforms, independent judiciary, legal reforms, government reforms, freedom of speech, the EU should “compensate” yanustalin and his gangster thieves.

    I believe the figure was stated as $20 billion.

    Oh- and God forbid that Julia Tymoshenko should be let out, in recognition of the fact that she went through a stalinist show trial, a kangaroo court, presided over by a 28-year old chimp-in-robes names Rodion Kiriev, who should change his last name to Kerovany (Керований) – “he who can be steered”.

    All of the judges in Zookraine are steered by yanustalin and his Bolshevik Regionnaires.

    Tammany Hall had nothing on this band of sovok mafiosi psycho gangsters. They would indeed sell their own mothers. For the right price, of course.

    I know you alreadly know this – Zookraine’s economy is based on a gangster kleptocracy of oligarchs, which chokes the economy.

    One cannot develop an economy, any sort of widespread healthy economy, based on corruption and gangsterism.

    Rasha did not even agree to lift all of the trade sanctions imposed against Zookraine – only about one-third of them. And, of course, Rasha has already engaged in several trade wars against Zookraine, and against Georgia, Moldova, and others.

    However, Rasha now is in the position of having to finance Zookraine – more accurately, Zookraine’s sovok mafia gangster elite, with a cut going to Rasha’s ganster elite – as is typical.

    One wonders how long that will last.

    Looking at Zookraine since the 2004 Orange Revolution, among other things, I am compelled to paraphrase Abba Eban on a daily basis:

    “Zookraine has never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity”

    Comment by elmer — November 23, 2013 @ 9:17 am

  7. I recall intensive conversations in Ukraine in 2009 that Gazprom’s Miller held a substantial stake in RosUkrEnergo.

    Comment by MJ — November 23, 2013 @ 8:39 pm

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