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September 30, 2009

The EU Report

Filed under: Military,Politics,Russia — The Professor @ 3:00 pm

The EU Report on the Russo-Georgian War is out.  Theoretically, anyways.  The report is huge, and apparently the server is overloaded, as it has proved impossible for me to download even the introduction (3.7 MB), let alone the even more massive (31.2 MB) Volume II.  I don’t want to rely on press reports or summaries, so I’ll defer posting on this until (a) I can download the report, and (b) I have sufficient time to digest it.

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  1. Try the mirror site, it worked for me.

    Comment by peter — September 30, 2009 @ 4:03 pm

  2. Thanks, Peter. Worked like a charm.

    The ProfessorComment by The Professor — September 30, 2009 @ 4:41 pm

  3. The key conclusions are here:

    Equally important is this scathing, must-read condemnation of Russian misconduct in the aftermath of the war by the same entity:

    In short, the Council condemns Russia for:

    1. Violating international law by invading Abkhazia (where there was no conflict).

    2. Violating international law by invading Georgia (including mass killings of civilians).

    3. Violating international law by recognizing Abkhazia and Ossetia.

    4. Violating international law by supporting ethnic cleansing of Georgians.

    5. Lying about ethnic cleansing by Georgians.

    6. Provoking Georgia by failing to curb attacks on it, issuing passports to Ossetians

    7. Flouting the Council’s post war demands regarding access to the disputed territories and post-war conduct, with which Georgia is in substantial compliance.

    Georgia’s only fault according to the Council was in responding with heavy artillery when it had not been attacked by heavy artillery and by moving troops into Ossetia faster than the Russians did. Talk about praising with faint damns! In essence, Georgia’s only fault according to the Council was walking into Putin’s trap.

    Comment by La Russophobe — September 30, 2009 @ 4:51 pm

  4. “I believe in Europe! Europe is the most important peace project in history,” Thorbjoern Jagland said in his speech of thanks, after he had been elected Secretary General of the Council of Europe by the organisation’s Parliamentary Assembly on Tuesday.

    In Torbjørn Jaglands country Norway the (PBS ) NRK’s report it is all Georgias fault.
    The fools of Norway think the polonium- murder- mafia want to play by the rules if you lick their ass .

    Arne Treholt was a good friend of Thorbjørn Jagland and the FSB like him .

    And who visited Treholt in prison?

    Thorbjørn Jagland, was among the most frequent guests on the visiting room in the prison with his old friend.

    There is also no secret that the spy convicted prisoner has many friends high up in the new government which will now determine the pardon application.

    Pardoned for health reasons by the government Harlem Brundtland 3 July 1992.

    Now it’s up to the PR advisors on both sides to create a favourable spin to the report. I have no doubt that Georgians have a tough job ahead of them, mainly because the report, in stating that Georgia “started” the war, (although Russia spent months preparing for it and provoking it), gives the EU/NATO countries who has taken a stand against Georgian NATO membership an argument. A NATO membership is now definitely postponed in indefinite time. The report will surely also make it easier for EU to do “business as usual” with Putin. But can EU accept that Russia has occupied a sovereign country, violated international laws by ethnic cleansing, recognised two rebel republics, and not honoured the seizfire agreement negotiated by French President Nicholas Sarkozy/EU? Yes they can. This report will not change anything, because the EU policy towards Russia and Georgia has been established more than a year ago based on facts described in the report. The report doesn’t bring new, potential policychanging evidence: Putin got his sphere of influence when he invaded Georgia in 2008.

    Comment by Peter — September 30, 2009 @ 5:10 pm

  5. I’m not going to waste even one minute reading the report.
    Everything was crystal clear from the start. Georgia started the war to establish law and order on HER OWN territory. Just like Russia started the war to establish law and order in Chechnya. Apparently, the West decided to throw a bone to the hungry dog with rabies.
    Meanwhile, the dog is digging up a whole. Putin is preparing to the nuclear war. Take a look at this article.

    A huge underground city will be built in Moskow.
    It will serve as a natural shelter during nuclear war.
    While intellectually challenged Mr. O’Bum (the bum) is dreaming up the future without “nukelar” bombs, Russians are preparing for the future.
    The only hope is to stop the war in Afghanistan so that taliban moves north.
    Also, a free trade with China with no restrictions on double purpose technology. If not stupid Americans, maybe, just maybe, the Chinese will finish destruction of the evil empire.

    Comment by Michael Vilkin — September 30, 2009 @ 6:03 pm

  6. Russian dog is digging up a hole. Sorry.

    Comment by Michael Vilkin — September 30, 2009 @ 6:03 pm

  7. EU: Russia was preparing for war all along. Evil Kremlin guilty of failing to ensure Russia was unprepared!

    More propaganda and double standards from the West. Russia is right to build nuclear bunkers.

    Comment by poluchi fashist granatu — September 30, 2009 @ 7:00 pm

  8. To the other Peter:

    Maybe one of us should change the screen name. What do you think?

    Comment by peter — October 1, 2009 @ 4:37 am

  9. Sublim granatu

    More propaganda and double standards from the Putin mafia

    Where are the Sublim poluchi fascist nuclear bunker ?

    Comment by Oleg — October 1, 2009 @ 4:54 am

  10. I don’t need no nuclear bunker. I hope there’s an all-out nuclear war between the US and Russia in which I’ll die a gruesome death from radiation poisoning. It will be a fitting punishment for my treason.

    Comment by poluchi fashist granatu — October 1, 2009 @ 7:27 am

  11. poluchi (хуючий) – translated from Russian.

    poluchi-хуючий, a fitting punishment for your treason would be to castrate you so that you are cut out of the gene pool and not make similar monkeys,
    you former SOBlime…

    Comment by Michael Vilkin — October 1, 2009 @ 3:56 pm

  12. You know, I have to admit that “poluchi fashist granatu” surprises me here. Perhaps he is a bit smarter than I thought *(though granted, that’s not saying much). I have to admit I did not think he would be smart enough to reject the COE report, I thought he would embrace it like so much mindless Russophile rubbish has already done, in other words without actually reading it.

    Well, at least we have an emphatic confirmation that the EU has not sided with Russia in any way, but to the contrary has brutally condemned Russian aggression. What’s more, apparently we have an admission from “poluchi fashist granatu” that NATO has every right to build up forces on Russia’s borders in order to be prepared for Russian attack, just as Russia apparently did in regard to Georgia in his view.

    So all in all, a very good day indeed.

    Comment by La Russophobe — October 1, 2009 @ 4:23 pm

  13. Where’s the emphasis on the Georgian government’s military buildup in the period before its attack on South Ossetia? This included brazen statements about needing to take back South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Saakasvili had plans for an attack like the one he launched last summer; according to a former Georgian government official, who was once close to the Georgian president.

    Free press Saakashvili style –

    Comment by Avenger — October 2, 2009 @ 12:08 am

  14. My point was that Russia was almost completely faultless, whereas the EU report gives the impression that it was somewhat shared between Georgia and Russia. Still, it takes logical acrobatics to conclude it was all Russia’s fault from that report. LR is very skilled at that.

    NATO building up forces close to Russia’s borders is an unacceptable threat to Russia’s national security, and should be countered by merciless nuclear annihilation.

    Comment by poluchi fashist yadernuyu bombu — October 2, 2009 @ 2:14 am

  15. “Still, it takes logical acrobatics to conclude it was all Russia’s fault from that report. LR is very skilled at that.”

    Yeah, her bosses at the Jamestown Foundation just got a two and a half year old news story back in to the AP headlines. Wonder how they pulled that one off.

    Comment by Steve J. Nelson — October 3, 2009 @ 11:49 pm

  16. “Still, it takes logical acrobatics to conclude it was all Russia’s fault from that report. LR is very skilled at that.”

    Not really. Skill is in asserting that black is white, hot is cold, all the while actually convincing people that you’re right. If you fail at convincing people, like La Russophobe, you just come out looking like a damn fool.

    As for the report, I skimmed through the important parts, doubt I’ll ever read the whole thing though. Overall I’d say it was pretty fair given that I expected something more akin to America’s stance of flat out denying facts and portraying everything in good vs. evil terms (though let’s be honest, it takes a pretty evil guy to order an artillery strike on a sleeping city without warning).

    Comment by Bob from Canada — October 5, 2009 @ 11:17 pm

  17. Johns Hopkins agrees with me:

    They say:

    “It is . . . apparent that its most scathing criticism is reserved for Russia’s role in the conflict. Significantly, the report found that Russia had long been purposefully engaging in provocations against Georgia and unlawful intervention in its internal affairs, and that none of Moscow’s various justifications for its invasion of Georgia hold water. Moreover, the report goes on to fault Russia’s behavior following the conflict, as it continues to be in material breach of the EU-negotiated cease-fire agreement.”

    Another ouchie for the Russophile trash. The JH Caucasus Institute is a world leading authority on the region.

    Next time, Russophile idiots, try actually reading the thing you are commenting on first, it may help.

    Comment by La Russophobe — October 6, 2009 @ 9:32 am

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