Streetwise Professor

June 15, 2019

If They Didn’t Have Double Standards, They’d Have No Standards At All

Filed under: Politics,Russia — cpirrong @ 6:09 pm

Just when I think politics could not get any more retarded, I’m proven wrong. The latest example being the meltdown freakout over Trump’s statement that he would listen to “dirt” on an opposing candidate passed on by a foreign source.

The mind boggles. Those melting down and freaking out are Democrats to the last he, she, and xe of them. (Mitt Romney et al are basically eunuchs who follow the lead of the Democrats who unmanned them, and whose approval they crave.) They are all die hard Hillary supporters.

This would be the Democratic Party that actively solicited compromising information on Trump and Trump campaign figures from the Ukrainian government. Last time I checked, Ukraine was not the 51st state. Or even the 58th.

This would be the Hillary Clinton whose campaign hired a foreigner to solicit foreigners–Russians, no less, rather than the benign Norwegians whom Trump referred to in his answer–to collect dirt on Trump.

And alleged information passed on by Alexander Downer (who speaks with a funny accent and so I’m pretty sure he’s a furriner) was apparently totally copacetic.

A consistent application of the standards implicit in the meltdown freakout would require those melting down and freaking out to demand the banning of the Democratic Party and Hillary’s incarceration.

Consistent application. Sometimes I crack myself up. If these people didn’t have double standards, they’d have no standards at all.

A few other observations. Does truth matter? That is, should the information provided be ignored and even criminalized merely because it is from a foreign source, even if it is true?

Hypothetical. A source within the FSB provides documentation showing that while honeymooning in the USSR a certain candidate for president agreed to become a source for the KGB, and had in fact regularly provided information to the KGB and then the FSB in the past 30+ years. Is that information to be suppressed, merely because of the source? Isn’t it meddling in an election to keep this information secret? (Any reasonable definition of the word “meddling” would involve an action that affects the outcome of an election, and keeping information secret can impact the outcome just as much as its revelation. Which is precisely why candidates want to suppress compromising information.)

Indeed, some information can only come from foreign sources. So it’s better to accept an increased risk of electing someone who canoodled with foreigners, than to accept information that would disclose such canoodling, because the information came from the foreigners that s/he canoodled with?

The controversy over the DNC emails suggests that truth is not a relevant consideration. The veracity of those emails, and the damaging information in them, were never disputed. Yet their release was supposedly scandalous, and sufficient in the minds of many to rule them out of bounds for discussion.

Moving on. Isn’t the obsession with the foreign-ness of the source of the dirt, oh, I dunno, kinda nationalist? Isn’t it passing strange that people who are willing to accept the illegal immigration of every last Guatemalan to the US (transportation courtesy of a Mexican drug cartel) believe that it is utterly unacceptable for a campaign to accept information provided by a Norwegian or whoever who may never set foot on the fruited plain nor see the amber waves of grain? So citizenship should be totally irrelevant for residency and employment and receiving government benefits, but it is determinative when it comes to who can provide information on political candidates to rival political candidates?

That makes sense how, exactly?

Isn’t it also implicit in the obsessive focus on the citizenship of the provider of information that it’s totally OK for Americans to meddle in elections by passing on damaging information to opposing campaigns?

I could go on, but contemplating the outpouring of sanctimonious hypocrisy for too long makes my head hurt. Suffice it to say, the louder the scream, the more execrable the screamer.

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8 Comments »

  1. I’m becoming convinced that Trump will say things like this because he knows that his opponents will undermine themselves in their reflexive response.

    Comment by Highgamma — June 15, 2019 @ 6:50 pm

  2. Not particularly endeared to Trump myself-although I like a lot of his policies. My absolute favorite thing about him is how people unveil themselves. It’s like the true person finally comes out. McCain was like that-a RINO and then voted FOR Obamacare…..watching Cocaine Mitch approve judges that are originalists is great. Can we get more please?

    Seeing the USDA employees turn their back on the USDA commish was frosting on the cake.

    The more they attack Trump, the more I vociferously want to support him and I don’t think I am the only Republican out there like that. 2020 will see all kinds of voter fraud. There will be a lot of violence. These people will not lose quietly.

    Comment by Jeff Carter — June 15, 2019 @ 7:08 pm

  3. @Highgamma–I was thinking the exact same thing. He chums the water and they rise to the bait every damn time.

    Comment by cpirrong — June 15, 2019 @ 7:56 pm

  4. Not retarded, just liars.

    “I think that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right.” – AOC.

    Comment by Bob — June 16, 2019 @ 2:45 am

  5. The Venona decrypts were, I suppose, dirt from a foreign source.

    Comment by dearieme — June 16, 2019 @ 12:35 pm

  6. Yes, the Democrats information from Russians and Ukrainians, or at least laundered their fiction to make it appear of foreign origin.
    But don’t absolve the Republicans. They hired GPS Fusion before the HRC/DNC/Perkins Coie gang did. That Republican senator spent a lot of time and effort distributing the dossier before Satan claimed his soul.
    The Uniparty has been the enemy of the truth for some time.

    Comment by Richard Whitney — June 18, 2019 @ 2:56 pm

  7. To be fair, even us Australians think Downer speaks with a funny accent.

    Comment by Timothy — June 24, 2019 @ 8:37 am

  8. “Isn’t the obsession with the foreign-ness of the source of the dirt, oh, I dunno, kinda nationalist?”

    “Foreign-ness” of the source isn’t the real issue. The issue is Democrat hate for Trump. Had the Russians hacked the RNC and published emails exposing Republican wrongdoings, the Democrats would have been enamored with these Russian hackers.

    Comment by Vlad R — July 15, 2019 @ 2:25 am

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