Streetwise Professor

October 29, 2013

You can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs, Obamacare Edition

Filed under: Economics,Politics — The Professor @ 5:33 pm

Today the creepy Jay Carney (the most aptly named man in show business) attempted valiantly to deny, against all evidence, that Obama did not deceive when he said-over and over and over-that if you like your health care policy you can keep it:

After the passage of Obamacare, the president has repeatedly insisted that if any individual likes their health care plan, they could “keep it.”

Carney on Tuesday added a crucial caveat to that promise, saying Americans could keep their insurance if the plan is “still available.”

In other words, if the plan is modified, coverage options that don’t meet Obamacare standards could be canceled.

Still, Carney accused Republicans of distorting the impact of the cryptic administrative ruling.

“What we’re talking about here is the 5 percent in the country who currently purchase insurance on the individual market,” he said.

That 5 percent of the country is over 10 million people, but remember what Uncle Joe said about omelets and eggs.

So you unlucky 5 percent: lie back and take it for the Motherland.  And no, sorry, but KY Jelly is not covered under the Bronze, Silver or Gold plans. Read the fine print.

And fine print is exactly what Carney’s-and every other administration flack’s-defense relies on.  If your policy changed in the slightest way, it’s not grandfathered anymore.  So even if you prefer the new version of your old policy, with a different deductible or coverage, to the  Bronze, Silver, or Gold plans you’re SOL.

Think of that any time a prog says s/he is “pro-choice.”  This prog plan is all about limiting choice in order to redistribute. But you shouldn’t be surprised, because that’s what progs are all about.

For those who say “I supported Obamacare until I found out I had to pay for it”, there are many words of wisdom in this clip. Including the “you trusted us” bit, and the part about “it’s gotta work better than the truth” (which is advice the Obama administration has obviously taken to heart:

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  1. And how could anyone complain or want to reform their open market plans? It’s not like more than 60 percent of all personal bankruptcies in the U.S. in 2007 were due to medical bills, with the vast majority of those bankruptcies occurring with people who had health insurance. Not pointing that out makes you almost as dishonest asObama.

    While you are on the subject of health care, prof, where’s your denunciation of the American Academy of Pediatrics for their traitorous, dare i say socialist new report on the 7500 children admitted to hospitals every year for gunshot wounds? But more guns, less crime right? John Lott will prove it once he finds those pesky missing computer files

    Comment by profsslightlymoreintelligentcollegue — October 30, 2013 @ 5:06 am

  2. @profsslightlymoreintelligentcollegue – You are a moral (and maybe otherwise) idiot: there is no obligation to point things out nor is anyone under the obligation to spout questionable statistics. What are your sources? What constitutes the “vast” majority”? Why 2007 and not another year? What constitutes “Having health insurance” – disaster coverage, a bad policy?

    You also demonstrate a complete misunderstanding of Bankruptcy – the point is that it is often used in this context to a. eliminate debt from medical costs – often charged at the retail rate which is about 3 times the actual cost through a plan, thus relieving the burden of debt for a new beginning, and b. is in some states a way to accelerate the Medicaid application process.

    What is the alternative to this: a system that is being run by already proven incompetents whose power and scope is increased dramatically through this incredibly stupid piece of legislation? Rationing by the government on a consolidated basis, from which there is no appeal? Such things were a prominent part of the Third Reich, and often inspired by the American eugenics movement, which included such people as the founder of Planned Parenthood (citation: “My Struggle”, A. Hitler). Do you really wish to grant even more power to our overweening government?

    It is very easy to criticize a reality by comparing it to an imaginary state of perfection. The Marxists have been doing this for years.

    As regard to Guns: 7500 out of a subject population of maybe 100,000,000 does not seem a lot: this is a fallacy that Koestler pointed out in Darkness at Noon: the death of 1 is a tragedy, the death of a million a statistic. The abstract you link to is pathetic, giving little detail: as regards to statistics – how many of these admissions were the result of accidents with legal guns, vs. illegal guns? Presumably illegal guns would still exist – so I am not sure what the adjusted statistics would be, do you? How many are hurt in automobile accidents, by kitchen utensils, etc.? Where is the context?

    The one truly interesting thing in this abstract is that the majority of accidents (if that is what they are) involve handguns, while “gun control” efforts are towards so called assault rifles. This might indicate that the political actions which you seem to support have nothing to do with the problem, but are being used as a ploy to seduce credulous fools to increase the power of our so called elites. Is this what you really want?

    What truly irritates is that you do not make an argument – you are not making a case, trying to convince someone of the correctness of your view either through an appeal to reason or even an appeal to emotions ( or at least one that is likely to succeed). Instead you bellow out a screed – your post is a kind of primal scream therapy, venting your spleen at the readers’ cost.

    If you wish to convince someone, make an argument – if you are just venting, please remit a check to cover the therapy you are indulging in.

    Comment by Sotos — October 30, 2013 @ 11:06 am

  3. Prevalence of Household Gun Ownership Linked to Child Gun Shot Wounds

    Ah, the term “linked”, so beloved of political agitators because it relieves them of any obligation to provide actual, concrete evidence of causation.

    Comment by Tim Newman — October 30, 2013 @ 3:59 pm

  4. No, the prof isn’t shit for brains – he only thinks that Obama is a fascist – He isn’t dumb enough to think that Obama (whom I probably despise more than the Prof) is actually born in Africa and a sekrit muslim – no, prof isn’t that dumb, which is saying a lot about the current intellectual climate among conservatives here. He isn’t stupid enough to believe everything he hears on Fox News, which is again say quite a bit. He probably only believes, based on his posts, that Al Gore uses airplanes = global warming isn’t real / Obama is completely dishonest = health care reform in a country where thousands of people die from lack of health care / infant mortality rates are higher than most Eastern European countries = any health care reform is communist, more guns = less crime, etc.

    No, prof isn’t completely shit for brains. He’s probably smarter than Jonah Goldberg, which is saying a lot in contemporary conservative America.

    Just let the Prof get distracted by Sean Hannity’s hair – it’s glimmering, just like the fading intelligence of conservative America (which the Prof embodies).

    And what do I know? The last major party candidate I voted for was Reagan.

    Comment by riiiiiiight — October 31, 2013 @ 5:11 pm

  5. Riiiiight,

    Apparently, not much to answer your question.

    Comment by The Pilot — October 31, 2013 @ 8:57 pm

  6. I know it is not directly related to the thread’s subject but since at this pace it wouldn’t take too long for America to follow the Canadian footsteps I thought of posting it:

    “Honor Rolled Over

    A Canadian school has axed the honor roll.


    To ease the disappointment of those who do not make it.

    “A Canadian school has axed the honor roll.


    To ease the disappointment of those who do not make it.

    School officials explained the decision in a letter to parents — quote — “Awards eventually lose their luster to students who get them, while often hurting the self-esteem and pride of those who do not.”

    Many parents wonder why the reward for success is being taken away.

    One parent said — quote — “You teach kids how to win, you teach kids how to lose. But you also teach them how to improve themselves and give them goals to strive for.”

    Comment by MJ — November 1, 2013 @ 4:54 am

  7. +++thousands of people die from lack of health care+++

    No shit.

    Comment by LL — November 1, 2013 @ 10:07 am

  8. …it’s colleague and not collegue BTW

    Comment by pahoben — November 1, 2013 @ 2:40 pm

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